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Igniter in oven will try to ignite. Hear gas flow. Can see spark on upper burner assembly but it does not ignite. Use custom broil and it will ignite the upper burner but will not stay lit after ignition procedure

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The ignitor may be faulty and not pulling enough power to keep the as valve open in order to light them oven, even though it is getting red or glowing the power is not enough.try and replace the ignitor

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Making Observations
The oven burner's operation will usually need to be directly observed while in operation as the first step to troubleshooting problems.Ignition System Type Links
Ignition System Types:
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  • Electronic Ignition with Constant Pilot (rare)
  • Electronic Ignition with Glow Ignitor (most common)
  • Spark Ignition System

  • Is there continuity between the oven gas valve's terminals?


    Hot Surface ('Glow Bar') Ignition System (most common)
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    http://www.fixya.com/support/r401858-replacing_oven_igniter_gas_range

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