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Need more info. Is it looping on the material or in the case? What is the sewing needle doing at this time?

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 07, 2008

SOURCE: bobbin thread not catching

Whenever you see loops on the underside of the fabric something is snagging the thread. the biggest culprit is burrs on the hook. the hook is what goes round and around the bobbin. The reason for burrs on the tip of the hook areseveral

ONE ...is by helping the fabric through as the machine is doing the sewing which directs the needle too close to the hook thus scarring the smooth surface of the hook and potentially breaking it off and the needle too. You must allow the machine do it on its own and only guide the material.

TWO...Sometimes if you are sewing s-t-r-e-t-c-h-y double knit material the material calls for a ball point needle. I have gotten good results with the Singer brand YELLOW BAND needle.

Three ... The hook could have gotten out of timing. What this means is that the hook is not meeting the needle on the top edge of the eye of the needle. You yourself can check this out by removing the bobbin (or shuttle, cassette). Install the needle flat side to flat side of the mounting rod and all the way up. By slowly turning the handwheel on the right slowly and watching that the eye of the needle is just below the hook on the upward swing of the needle and that they both meet dead center. This when you need to take it in to a repairman. FrankIy I don't like to advise this because of unscruppulous practices. My boss used to call me a virgin Mary because I wouldn't ripp-off the customers. Anyway at this time you can also check the condition of the hook carefully looking for nicks and scratches on or around the tip of the hook. If there is damage present you can file this down with a very fine emory board or by using a strip of 400 to 600 grit sandpaper as if your were buffing a shoe. If the hook is removeable by unsnapping the snaps on either side its easier to buff. Anything courser may contibute to the problem. If the paper won't remove the damage you may need a whole new hook. If its not removeable you will have to take it in to have it installed.They have to time it properly.

Four...The two disk that you mentioned also has a spring. That sping is there to pull up those loops. If the disks are full of lint from the thread going through. the clups of lint won't allow the discs to apply tension on the thread and thereby having tightened the tension so much that that spring is not working properly.You can clean the discs by raising the foot which opens the discs. With a long narrow pick pull out all that lint without scatching the discs. Check closely that the the thread goes across the top of the machine down through the discs pull up snug so the spring engages,through the take up arm,in the two thead guides, then into the needle front to back or right to left, if it is a side loading bobbin. Now the tension will work properly!

TESTING : Move the TENSION dial to mid point of the dial usually 5. This is your starting point.
With two layers of fabric ( not stretchy) and with a regular needle, set stitch length at about 12 per inch on the dial. Now sew about six inches. Raise the fabric and look at the results. Do minor adjustments necessary on your tension dial up 6...7.. if loose on the bottom 4...3..2 if loose on top.
If you did all the steps above those are the steps a repairman performs and charges $75 except me I used to charge $10 .

Brother machines are good quality it is those hidden gremlins that make a fun hobby frustrating when you don't have someone to turn to without having to shell out cash! Its been a pleasure!

jravenus

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 09, 2009

SOURCE: not picking up the bobbin thread

Make sure the needle is facing the right way. If it's in backwards it won't pick up the bobbin thread.

Page Gettman

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  • Posted on Jan 24, 2009

SOURCE: Bottom (bobbin thread) makes loops

I don't have the same brand as yours, but on my machine there is a little screw on the bobbin case that you tighten to increase the bobbin tension. If you've got one, turn it 1/8 to 1/4 turn at a time.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 12, 2009

SOURCE: Singer Touch & Sew won't loop bobbin thread

I believe you have a broken gear. These are difficult to repair on your own.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 27, 2009

SOURCE: The top thread gets caught in the shuttle hook and

I am having same problem

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Is it actually the bobbin thread that loops or is the loop appearing on the underside of the fabric as you stitch? If it is a loop under the fabric, that's usually an indication it is an upper thread issue. Thread irregularities that appear on the topside of the fabric are generally bobbin related.

First thing to try is installing a brand new needle. Verify it is the correct needle for the fabric and thread being used.
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Sometimes, the fabric being stitched will "grab" the thread and hold it for a second before releasing and will cause a loop. In this case, a needle with a larger scarf and eye may be helpful.

You might also open the upper tension as much as possible, RAISE the presser foot and run a piece of UNwaxed dental floss through the tension disk a few times to clear out any gunk that may be stuck there. A piece of pearl cotton dipped in rubbing alcohol and squeezed moist/dry will also work.

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Try changing the bobbin. There could be something amiss with the current bobbin--could be nicked or could even be the wrong bobbin for the machine. Also, make sure the bobbin is loaded and turning the correct direction in the machine.

Set the upper tension to the midway point. This is usually the starting point, although it will probably require some tweaking. Test your stitch and adjust the tension so the upper and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric. Neither thread should dominate one side of the fabric or the other.

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Last thing to try is a different presser foot.

If you still have the intermittent loop, you might want to take it for service. Could be a problem within the tension disk.
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Hello Rosemary
Looped thread on the underside are created by the upper thread. Loops on the top of the fabric are created by the bobbin thread. Whichever one is looping, has very little tension. This may be corrected by:
1. Re-threading the upper thread according to manufacturer's specifications.
2. Re-wind bobbin and re-set it into bobbin case and bobbin case area according to manufacturer's specifications.
3. Ensure that the needle is correctly installed and is the correct needle for the sewing machine.
4. Ensure that he bobbin being used is the correct one for the machine.
5. Double check that the tension on the upper thread is at the correct setting.
6. Double check that the tension unit is clean and free of dust, lint or lodged thread/s.
7. Double check that the bobbin tension is correctly set ... if you are comfortable doing so, otherwise leave it for a qualified technician
8. Make sure that he presser foot is down when stitching.
Please let me know how you go.
Happy stitching.
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