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David Mandel Posted on Jan 15, 2019

Kitchenaid KSRS25QAWH01, side by side: Is there a mechanical defrost timer, and if so, where do I find it? If not, is it part of a control board? Where do I find that and how do I test it? Thanks.

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4388932 is the part number for the adaptive defrost control located behind your control panel. If your defrost heater and defrost thermostat test ok then by order of deduction you need the board.

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    David Mandel Jan 16, 2019

    Thanks, Jeff. The thermostat tested bad, so I ordered one and hope that's it. I tried to take a look at the board but couldn't figure out how to remove the case of the control panel. Two screws removed, ... but then what?

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    Jeff Sluss Jan 16, 2019

    There may be a total of 4 screws. Look up behind the front panel.

  • David Mandel
    David Mandel Jan 16, 2019

    Thanks again. The two I removed are behind the panel; I don't see any others. I tried gently prying it off from the front but was afraid to try too hard lest it break.

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    David Mandel Jan 23, 2019

    Hi again Jeff. Since the thermostat tested bad and our local place would have had to order it, I ordered one myself online and meanwhile, defrosted the freezer manually -- for the second time, figuring that would get it going for a week or so until the part arrived. But now it's been a week, the new part arrived ... and the freezer seems to be working fine. The temp. in the top section, which was melting before, came in at -15. Is it possible the old thermostat came back to life? Thanks again.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 25, 2008

SOURCE: Refrigerator Defrost Troubleshooting

you cannot do this
just check the defrost heater and the bi metal, if they check good then the adaptive defrost control is bad

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MARLON KELLER

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  • Posted on Jun 01, 2008

SOURCE: Defrost heater not cycling

sound like to me you have a wire terminal short on the neutral side between you def. t-stat and the adc
go to www.servicematters.com for the service bulletin on this issue


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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jul 02, 2008

SOURCE: Troubleshooting defrost system failure on Amana Fridge

YES YOU GOT IT,IT'S THE BOARD BECAUSE EVERYTHING ELSE CHECKED OUT GOOD,BOTH FANS,HEATING ELEMENT,DEFROST THERMOSTAT,THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD DO IS TURN THE THERMOSTAT OFF IN THE FRIG.TO SEE IF THE COMPRESSOR AND FANS TURN OFF,WAIT 3 MINUTES AND TURN IT BACK ON, IF THAT CHECKS OUT THEN IT HAS TO BE THE DEFROST TIMER,LET ME KNOW-MIKE

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 02, 2009

SOURCE: where is the defrost timer in a maytag plus side

It does not have a timer it has a defrost board it is in the top of the frig in the back right corner under light a thermostat cover in a box and no they can't be advanced or checked.If the element is good and the thermistor is good than the only thing left is the defrost board and usually it is the board hope that helps

rktc

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  • Posted on Sep 04, 2009

SOURCE: MSD2456DE - fridge side warm

Forcing the frig into a defrost cycle may not solve this problem long term. The old fridgs had a sliding door which bled cold air from the freezer into the fresh food compartment which you simply adjusted to keep your fresh food compartment at more or less the proper temperature. This simple manually operated sliding door has now been replaced by a motor actuated sliding door that is controlled by the fresh food compartment thermostat. On Whirlpool side by side fridges, the door has, for some reason, been designed so that the sliding door itself will shear or break if the door encounters an obstruction such as ice in the sliding track. Those geniuses designed it so that the door will always fail in the CLOSED position. This means that if this door breaks, the door letting cold air from the freezer into the fresh food compartment will stay closed and not permit any cold air to enter the fresh food compartment and all your food will spoil. The stupid fridge, will continue to run and run because the thermostat in the fresh food compartment will continually call for more cold air, which is just not available due to the broken door. Eventually, the freezer coils will completely ice up and you will see frost on the outside of the panels that cover the coils. If the door is broken, defrosting the freezer will NOT result in any cooling of the fresh food compartment because the door is closed. To check, use a mirror to see if the door is open. The door is typically on the upper back corner of the fresh food compartment on the freezer side. It will have louvers on it. Using a mirror and a flashlight, you should be able to see if the door is open. If it is closed, using a small screwdriver, you should be able to move it open (unless it's iced up). If you can easily move it open with the screwdriver, the door is definitely broken. At this point you have two alternatives. One is to replace the unit and be very careful about too frequent door openings and overloading the frig with food that is warmer than room temperature. These motor controlled units are not cheap. I should know having bought three of them before getting smarter. The other alternative is to attempt to rebuild and/or repair the sliding door assembly. Dis-assembly is accomplished by carefully cutting off the styrofoam front with a box cutter or something similar. This will expose the door and motor assembly. You can either try and glue another piece of plastic where the readily identifiable broken piece was, or attempt to fabricate a whole new door from a suitable piece of plastic. In any case, finish the job by applying lots of silicone lubricant to the door and door tracks to keep it from sticking again. Simply taping on the styrofoam front is good enough till the next time. I hope this helps you with your problem.

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