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Owen gerlinsky Posted on Jan 30, 2018
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I have a 1991 skidoo tundra. And I have no spark. I changed the cdi box and swapped coils. What is the gap for the magnetic pick up also how do I test the magnetic pick up?

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When in a pinch I have used a business card to set the gap, remember close will advance timing further will retard timing, unless you are a long way from the flywheel gap most likely not the issue but will affect spark intensity. Most likely bad pickup coils or weak magnets which requires flywheel replacement.

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tombones

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  • Posted on Apr 08, 2009

SOURCE: I have no spark 2000 KTM 125 sx

Before going to the CDI system go ahead and check the kill switches including the side stand switch, with an Ohmmeter. How good is the battery? Check the fuses. Check the wiring harness. Are all wires clean and with a solid connection? Any abraded wires? Check the operation of the ignition switch with a volt ohmmeter. Is the bike in neutral and the neutral light is lit up?

You can download a free PDF factory service manual by going to the website below >
http://www.carlsalter.com/motorcycle-manuals.asp
The manual should tell you in detail how to test the CDI and other electrics.

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tombones

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  • Posted on May 28, 2009

SOURCE: no spark 110cc engine wont start

Check the fuses. Next, check for spark but with a new spark plug. How good is the battery? If needed, add water to the battery cells enough to cover the top of the cell plates.Try a jump start from your car battery. Is the kill switch on? Check the operation of the ignition switch with a volt ohmmeter. You should be getting power into and out of the ignition switch.

If the bike doesn't start and run properly check the side stand kill switch. It kills the engine so that you don’t start out with the side stand down. Broken or out of adjustment, it would kill the spark. Check for a broken wire at the switch or coupler. Get a service manual and check out the electrical section. Some bikes have a diode integrated into the turn signal relay. Try moving the kill switch by hand. If that doesn’t work then wire a jumper around the switch to bypass it. If that doesn’t work, check out the relay.

Check the wiring harness. Did a wire come unplugged? Are all wires clean and with solid connections? Any abraded or pinched wires? Is the bike in neutral and the neutral light is lit up? If no neutral light, check the neutral switch and neutral switch wire on center casing.

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tombones

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  • Posted on Aug 06, 2009

SOURCE: 1983 yamaha xj 650 no spark already changed the

  • Do you see spark? If not, check the side stand kill switch. It kills the engine so that you don’t start out with the side stand down. If broken or out of adjustment, it would kill the spark. Check for a broken wire at the side stand switch and coupler. Try moving the side stand kill switch by hand. If that doesn’t work then wire a jumper around the switch to bypass it.
  • Is the handlebar kill switch on? Is it shorted out?
  • Are you getting power to the coils?
  • Check the fuses. How good is the battery? Try a jump start from your car battery.
  • Check the operation of the ignition switch and all kill switches with a volt ohmmeter. Check the wiring harness. Did a wire come unplugged? Are all wires clean and with solid connections? Any abraded or pinched wires? Is the bike in neutral and the neutral light is lit up? If no neutral light, check the neutral switch and neutral switch wire on center or side casing. If still no spark, get CDI system and coils checked at the dealers shop.

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Earl Norager

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  • Posted on Aug 06, 2009

SOURCE: I have a 1991 Kawasaki JS 550sx, No spark

that box will not work on the newer bike they are different . you need to not mismatch stuff on the bike you will coast you more money taking cheap rout need right part hope this helps

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 30, 2009

SOURCE: no spark put on a new cdi box coil good and a new

hi,sounds to me like your cdi pickup unit has failed,i am not 100% certain but this will be located on the end of the crankshaft behind one of the enginecovers,there could be two other possibilities,motox bikes are notorious for breaking wires so check the wiring from the cdi sender unit to the cdi box and the coil,also check your "off"button it may be stuck in the "kill" position..hope this helps..cheers ian

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If somehow, the CDI could be opened up, then component level repair maybe tried. There would be 2 final transistors that actually do the switching; 1 for each coil. Offhand, it would appear that 1 of those 2 is faulty. Otherwise, replacement is the only option.

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I've this data from my 1986 engine!

Under the left hand side cover there are 2 2-wire connections. One with a green and a black wire, one with a blue and a yellow wire.
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The values of the ignition coil resistances are:
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Secundary coil : 25.000 - 45.000 ohms ( set ohmmeter at R x 1.000 )
For a correct measurement ALL leads must be disconnected ( also the spark plug leads )

The CDI cannot be tested with a simple measurement. Suzuki dealers have a special tool to test CDI boxes.
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