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Anonymous Posted on Sep 06, 2014

How can i fix the lower bobbin?

The machine seems to run well, but the lower thread isn't being looped up b the top thread.

  • Carolyn Rogers Nov 26, 2014

    Hi Anonymous, I want to help you with your question, but I need more information from you. Can you please add details in the comment box?
    Is this for an Elna 1010, or an earlier model? Model number will be on machines ID plate, a small silver plate on the right side usually.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 01, 2009

SOURCE: The bobbin winder won't turn to wind the thread onto the bobbin

your bob winder unit has run dry and needs oil to be worked into it

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 23, 2010

SOURCE: Needle's thread gets tangled in bobbin

First, open the needle plate and make sure the bobbin area is clean and free of lint and thread.

Check the needle to make sure it is not bent and is properly inserted into the holder - usually with the flat side facing to the back of the machine.

Refer to your manual for bobbin insertion to be sure the thread is feeding from the bobbin in the correct direction and through the proper guides.

Always thread a sewing machine with the presser foot up. This opens the tension control and allows the thread to properly enter.

When the foot is down, the tension control closes to the sewing setting and if the thread is not in place, there is no tension on the thread and it gets loopy.

After threading, lower and raise the needle while holding onto the thread tail. This will pull the bobbin thread up through the needle plate. Take hold of both threads and take them under the presser foot and to the back of the machine.

Hand walk the first stitch when sewing and this should keep the top and bottom thread from tangling.

When stopping to change the position of the fabric (turning a corner, sewing a curved seam for example), do so with the needle down into the fabric. This not only anchors the fabric so it does not slip, but prevents mis-stitching.

If you are doing everything according to the manual and are still having a problem, the machine may need to be professionally serviced.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 03, 2010

SOURCE: needle thread tension- huge loops

Put the tension settings back to the mfg's suggested setting.

Re-thread the machine with the presser foot up and there will be no more loops.

Tally Girl

Tally Girl

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  • Posted on Mar 14, 2011

SOURCE: The top sewing thread feeds

I'd suggest that you rethread the top thread entirely, ensuring the thread is going through the tension discs correctly and that the tension dial is set to the medium setting, usually 4 or 5.

If you have your manual, also check the cleaning instructions and see if the manual gives instructions on how to clean the tension discs, some of the newer machines these are hidden away but earlier models, you just turned the dial to zero, then ran a piece of clean cotton scrap selvedge edge through between the discs to clean out.

Also, if the machine is not drawing the bobbin thread up to the needle plate during a stitch sequence, check that your needle is not in backwards. Must be flat shank to the back.

Finally, if you are getting thread birdnests in the bobbin area a lot, remove the needle plate and follow your manual instructions to remove the bobbin holder and clean under it. The bobbin holder looks like this and sits in a surround.

tally_girl_12.jpg Check that this case hasn't been damaged by the needle, there may be little piercing or burring of the plastic. If so, give it a file smooth with a nail file, wipe it clean and try again. The rough edge could be catching the threads.

Tally Girl

Tally Girl

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  • Posted on Aug 02, 2011

SOURCE: My elna sewing machine bobbin

If the fly wheel is going around then the clutch isn't disengaged to wind the bobbin, you need to pull out the flywheel on your model to disengage the clutch for bobbin winding.

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Take thread from thread spool across to bobbin winder thread guide, then back to bobbin and thread the tail through the hole on top of the bobbin. Place bobbin onto spindle on top of machine and then push it against the stop to engage the bobbin winding motor. HOld the thread tail up and start winding slowly until the bobbin core has been covered including the starting point. Stop and trim off the thread tail with scissors. COntinue winding bobbin and give the thread a nudge if needed to wind evening top middle and bottom of the bobbin. A good smooth wind is important. Also don't wind at full speed and keep an eye on the thread reel that the thread is coming off, you don't want it bouncing around as this will **** the thread and stretch then relax it affecting your bobbin wind.

Obviously if you know this and the bobbin winding mechanisim is just not working, then it will need a service/replacement by an Elna repair person.

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See following Singer video... testing top thread tension.
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A sewing machine operator can often help themselves when their machine does not operate properly.
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This could be trouble;================Do this;
1.Top tension to tight================loosen tension 1 turn
2.Machine improperly threaded=========check threading
3.Thread twisted on guide post========"
4.Thread twisted out of tension======="
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6.Thread jumped off pull off finger===Check threading
7.Needle bent or burred===============new needle
8.Bad cone of thread==================try another cone
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1.Bobbin tensionspring to tight=======Loosen tension slightly
2.Bobbin threaded wrong===============check threading
3.Bobbin wound to tight or uneven=====try new bobbin
4.lint or thread on bobbin case=======clean inside case
5.Lint or thread inside hook==========clean inside hook
6.Bobbin case nicked bent or burred===check/change case
TROUBLE;MACHINE STARTED SKIPPING STITCHES;
1.Needle bent or burred===============change
2.Needle set in crooked===============Check
3.Thread jumped off take up spring====check threading
4.Thread jumped off pull off finger===check threading
TROUBLE STITCHES SHOWING LOOPS;
1.Forming loops on top of cloth=======Tighten bobbin tension
======================================or loosen top tension.
2.forming loops on bottom of cloth====Tighten top tension
3.Bobbin placed in case incorrectly===remove and replace
4.Bobbin thread slipped from under====check threading of
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5.Lint or thread in top tension=======clean between tension discs


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Good day!

A sewing machine operator can often help themselves when their machine does not operate properly.
Here are some simple instructions, which if properly used can save time and mechanics service calls.
TROUBLE;UPPER THREAD KEEPS BREAKING;
This could be trouble;================Do this;
1.Top tension to tight================loosen tension 1 turn
2.Machine improperly threaded=========check threading
3.Thread twisted on guide post========"
4.Thread twisted out of tension======="
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Good day!

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Here are some simple instructions, which if properly used can save time and mechanics service calls.
TROUBLE;UPPER THREAD KEEPS BREAKING;
This could be trouble;================Do this;
1.Top tension to tight================loosen tension 1 turn
2.Machine improperly threaded=========check threading
3.Thread twisted on guide post========"
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7.Needle bent or burred===============new needle
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3.Bobbin wound to tight or uneven=====try new bobbin
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4.Thread jumped off pull off finger===check threading
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2.forming loops on bottom of cloth====Tighten top tension
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