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Erin Lyon Posted on Feb 20, 2019

Rancillio Class 6 2 group, left group head water running very slow. Error "No flow meter", tested valve, flow meter cap, and gicluer looks clean, what could be the problem???

The left group head is running very slow. Taking about 90 seconds to make 2 shots. I have swapped the valves from right to left, no change (so not the issues), swapped the flow meter caps, no change, took apart jet cap and it doesn't look like anything is clogging the gicleur (but I don't know how I would fully clean it to be safe). Can't seem to figure out the issue otherwise. Could be a descaling issue, but I didn't see any scale in the gicleur. Any ideas or help would be appreciated.

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Roger Jackson

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  • Posted on Aug 20, 2008

SOURCE: low water flow from gaggia

I have now solved this problem. The lack of flow associated with the pump working but running quietly is caused by the Group Head being blocked with limescale. Normal descaling cannot remove it because it cannot penetrate the Group Head.
Removing the Group Bell can be achieved using a collection of screws (see photo) and works no matter how stubborn the thing: levering it with a screwdriver in my case was impossible as it was so well glued on. 6d47425.jpg
I figure that the advice to replace the rubber seal once per year is a good one because it forces you to remove the Group Bell and clean it out.

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Ernest R

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  • Posted on Feb 27, 2009

SOURCE: gaggia titanium not pumping water after descaling

Line could be blocked at the boiler, check the the line that runs to the steam/hot water valve.
Did you try disconnecting the other side of the pump to see if indeed it doesn't work when you turn it on.
For the pump, if you remove the top connection and the electrical connections you can slide it off the top flange, then using a flat edge screwdriver on the back middle of the bottom flange where is sits on the frame you can get the pump out.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 23, 2009

SOURCE: Solis Palazzo - dreaded ventilate problem

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Your machine is still in the descale mode. You haven't finished. If you have run the descaler through, the water is ermpty the pump will still keep going until it stop on its own. If it doesn't stop on its own, the computer thinks its still in the descale mode. remove the water tank and turn the machine back on. The pump will run and then make a lot of noise, then stop. This can take up to 5 minutes. Let it run until it stops. You will get blinking lights on the panel. Put the water tank back on and close the steam knob then open it again. The pump will start the rinse mode. Let it stop on its own. Computer can't see that you ran a whole tank of water, but it can see when the flow meter stops that there is no water left. If you have already rinsed the machine start the pump flowing and just lift the tank off. When the pumps stops the rinse cycle the descale light will be gone but you will have the heater light blinking and the water light steady. Put the tank back on and close the steam valve then open it again. This will clear the water light and the machine will start to heat again.

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Ernest R

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  • Posted on Jun 19, 2009

SOURCE: no water coming through group head

Remove the shower screen and clean. If shower is clean then line to head is clogged.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Aug 27, 2009

SOURCE: descaled machine, clean solenoid valve. now steam is coming

try replaced gasket in high pressure valve.

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It sounds like you may have a clog in the water line or the tubing that leads from the water tank to the 2nd group head of your coffee machine. To address this issue, you can try the following steps:

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It is possible that the solenoid on the group head is blocked, or the coil is damaged, or the metering jet on the top of the head is blocked. Since there is no click then I think the coil might be the problem. Disconnect the black electrical cover with screw in the middle, lift up and using an ohms meter check for resistance between left and right curved prongs. The flat one is the ground so ignore that one. If you have resistance, then remove the 14mm discharge chute, then the nut, washer and large flat washer and slide out the coil. DO NOT REMOVE THE SOLENOID FROM THE HEAD UNLESS YOU HAVE BREW VALVE GASKET TO REPLACE THE OLD ONES. TURN OFF THE WATER AT SUPPLY VALVE. MAKE SURE MACHINE IS COLD. Using a wrench remove the silver part of the solenoid body from the brass part connected to the head. Check the 2 holes in there and make sure they are clear, you can briefly turn on the water to see if it flows out of there careful it be a powerful stream. Reassemble and test group head.
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The left grouphead sounds like a different problem than the right group head. For the left grouphead, I would start by replacing the group electro-valve. With hard water, this can cause the valve to remain in the closed position even though the water pump is running.

For the right group head, I would want to see this happen. Usually, if the gaskets haven't been replaced in a while (if you are busy, your 'while' may be quicker than others), I would evaluate the condition of the rubber gasket. I would also look at whether you are tamping too much espresso grounds into the portafilter. This can cause a similar symptom as a bad gasket.


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