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2003 checy avalanche...need brake line routing from master cylinder to comination valve to abs pump ports

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  • jdavis0518 Aug 10, 2011

    this has a combination valve not a proportioning valve....i ask for a diagram of the lines....the diagram you sent is not correct for this vehicle....w/o jl4 option on brakes....need to know which lines go into the abs ports...5 total ports...whicj port is left front etc.

  • jdavis0518 Aug 10, 2011

    need to know which lines go into abs ports...w/o jl4 option

  • jdavis0518 Aug 11, 2011

    that was the info i needed thanks

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THis is for a Chevy Silverado truck, since I could not find a diagram from GM. Here is a picture showing which line is which...

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Looking from vehicle front to rear, there must be the layout, there are three connections along the top. From left to right, the connections are Front Left Wheel, Front Right Wheel, and the Connector near Left Rear Wheel that serves both rear wheels. The bottom two connections go to the Master Cylinder. The Left Connection goes to the rear Master Cylinder Connection and the Right Connection goes to the front Master Cylinder Connection.

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    Good luck... and thank you for using Fixya.

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The rear is pretty straight forward. It runs down under the drivers side. Each line goes through a small proportioning valve (one for the passenger side wheel near the firewall and one for the drivers side near where the rear crossmember is). Then as the two lines reach the rear crossmember one goes from its proportioning valve into a small line then into it's rubber hose to the caliper on the drivers side, while the other shoots strait across the rear crossmember and into its rubber hose to the passenger side caliper.------------- Click this link below for diagram:--- http://howtobyme.blogspot.com/2011/08/brake-line-for-chevy-avalanche.html ---------- This should help.Thanks.Helpmech.

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Fig. 1: Loosen the front brake line in order to bleed the master cylinder

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Fig. 2: Connect a bleed hose from the bleed valve on the front caliper to a jar of brake fluid

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